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	<title>Comments on: Why Should I Use Backbone.Marionette Instead Of … ?</title>
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		<title>By: Derick Bailey</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/derickbailey/2012/06/13/why-should-i-use-backbone-marionette-instead-of-%e2%80%a6/#comment-3147</link>
		<dc:creator>Derick Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite the opposite! 


Marionette expects you to handle the Model and Collection loading yourself. There are 10,000 ways of doing that, and I&#039;m not going to try and force you to do it a certain way.


Once you have your models and collections loaded, though, Marionette will render them for you. You shouldn&#039;t have to write your own render methods. That&#039;s part of the most immediate value that Marionette provides.


The reason I don&#039;t show loading the models and collections in my examples is because it&#039;s not relevant. It doesn&#039;t matter how you load data in to them. It only matters that you have data in them - whether it&#039;s hard coded or loaded from an API, or uses lazer beams to reflect binary patterns off your bathroom mirror in to an IR device :D ... doesn&#039;t matter, up to you. Marionette uses your model and collection, with whatever data they have, and handles the rendering for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite the opposite! </p>
<p>Marionette expects you to handle the Model and Collection loading yourself. There are 10,000 ways of doing that, and I&#8217;m not going to try and force you to do it a certain way.</p>
<p>Once you have your models and collections loaded, though, Marionette will render them for you. You shouldn&#8217;t have to write your own render methods. That&#8217;s part of the most immediate value that Marionette provides.</p>
<p>The reason I don&#8217;t show loading the models and collections in my examples is because it&#8217;s not relevant. It doesn&#8217;t matter how you load data in to them. It only matters that you have data in them &#8211; whether it&#8217;s hard coded or loaded from an API, or uses lazer beams to reflect binary patterns off your bathroom mirror in to an IR device :D &#8230; doesn&#8217;t matter, up to you. Marionette uses your model and collection, with whatever data they have, and handles the rendering for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Ephroni</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/derickbailey/2012/06/13/why-should-i-use-backbone-marionette-instead-of-%e2%80%a6/#comment-3146</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Ephroni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see. I think the confusion comes from seeing a collection/model assigned to a Marionette view without having to write a lot of code to make it render. Do you mean that only works with hard coded data in the script itself? This is A scenario I will never run into in my daily life. I guess I&#039;ll go and start knitting my own render methods. Thanks for answering so quickly. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see. I think the confusion comes from seeing a collection/model assigned to a Marionette view without having to write a lot of code to make it render. Do you mean that only works with hard coded data in the script itself? This is A scenario I will never run into in my daily life. I guess I&#8217;ll go and start knitting my own render methods. Thanks for answering so quickly. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Derick Bailey</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/derickbailey/2012/06/13/why-should-i-use-backbone-marionette-instead-of-%e2%80%a6/#comment-3144</link>
		<dc:creator>Derick Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are none, because that is not in the scope of Marionette. Look up Backbone and REST, though, and you&#039;ll find hundreds of articles available. Marionette is built on top of Backbone, but it does not provide any additional layers or functionality for Models or Collections, which are used to work with the REST APIs.

A good starting point: http://addyosmani.github.com/backbone-fundamentals/#exercise-2-book-library---your-first-restful-backbone.js-app or my own Backbone screencasts (slightly out-dated, but the principles still apply) http://pragprog.com/screencasts/v-dback/hands-on-backbone-js</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are none, because that is not in the scope of Marionette. Look up Backbone and REST, though, and you&#8217;ll find hundreds of articles available. Marionette is built on top of Backbone, but it does not provide any additional layers or functionality for Models or Collections, which are used to work with the REST APIs.</p>
<p>A good starting point: <a href="http://addyosmani.github.com/backbone-fundamentals/#exercise-2-book-library---your-first-restful-backbone.js-app" rel="nofollow">http://addyosmani.github.com/backbone-fundamentals/#exercise-2-book-library&#8212;your-first-restful-backbone.js-app</a> or my own Backbone screencasts (slightly out-dated, but the principles still apply) <a href="http://pragprog.com/screencasts/v-dback/hands-on-backbone-js" rel="nofollow">http://pragprog.com/screencasts/v-dback/hands-on-backbone-js</a></p>
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		<title>By: aikiken</title>
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		<dc:creator>aikiken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2013 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derrick, I have been spending the last 24 hours trying to find an article on using Marionette with a RESTful web service. Could it be that there is not even ONE out there? I would have thought that would be in your documentation but have been unable to get the info out of there either. Am I just missing it? Can you point me in the right direction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick, I have been spending the last 24 hours trying to find an article on using Marionette with a RESTful web service. Could it be that there is not even ONE out there? I would have thought that would be in your documentation but have been unable to get the info out of there either. Am I just missing it? Can you point me in the right direction?</p>
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		<title>By: Derick Bailey</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/derickbailey/2012/06/13/why-should-i-use-backbone-marionette-instead-of-%e2%80%a6/#comment-2730</link>
		<dc:creator>Derick Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) thanks marcus! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:) thanks marcus! </p>
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		<title>By: marcus</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/derickbailey/2012/06/13/why-should-i-use-backbone-marionette-instead-of-%e2%80%a6/#comment-2728</link>
		<dc:creator>marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty cool Derick.


I&#039;ve been coding with plain Backbone for just about 2 weeks now and in that short time have encountered quite a few areas where I wanted a bit more / different functionality and slowly started down the road of extending the framework with my own extensions to solve various issues.. unbinding events, multiview controllers, event aggregators / event busses for different areas of the application (I called them EventRelay) etc.


It has been a good way to get to know the workings of Backbone and underscore both of which are completely new to me. Anyway, seeing this has given me two things, firstly joy in knowing others are doing things similarly, secondly sadness I didn&#039;t check it out earlier! Next development iteration I may consider switching out to Marionette where possible as  you&#039;ve already solved many things more, Geppetto is going to be worth a look too.


Keep up the great work guys, really appreciate these articles too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool Derick.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been coding with plain Backbone for just about 2 weeks now and in that short time have encountered quite a few areas where I wanted a bit more / different functionality and slowly started down the road of extending the framework with my own extensions to solve various issues.. unbinding events, multiview controllers, event aggregators / event busses for different areas of the application (I called them EventRelay) etc.</p>
<p>It has been a good way to get to know the workings of Backbone and underscore both of which are completely new to me. Anyway, seeing this has given me two things, firstly joy in knowing others are doing things similarly, secondly sadness I didn&#8217;t check it out earlier! Next development iteration I may consider switching out to Marionette where possible as  you&#8217;ve already solved many things more, Geppetto is going to be worth a look too.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work guys, really appreciate these articles too</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Jans</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/derickbailey/2012/06/13/why-should-i-use-backbone-marionette-instead-of-%e2%80%a6/#comment-2665</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Jans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derick, have you had a chance to look closer at Aura. In agree that Addy is brilliant and worth paying attention to. I curious where you see the two projects overlapping and different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derick, have you had a chance to look closer at Aura. In agree that Addy is brilliant and worth paying attention to. I curious where you see the two projects overlapping and different.</p>
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		<title>By: saniko</title>
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		<dc:creator>saniko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you have any samples or project you can share so people can look into and learn, i (and many people i presume) would prefer to learn from reference project to understand how those concepts you are talking about are being implemented in complex scenarios.
BTW have you looked into https://github.com/hautelook/vertebrae,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you have any samples or project you can share so people can look into and learn, i (and many people i presume) would prefer to learn from reference project to understand how those concepts you are talking about are being implemented in complex scenarios.<br />
BTW have you looked into <a href="https://github.com/hautelook/vertebrae" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/hautelook/vertebrae</a>,</p>
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		<title>By: saniko</title>
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		<dc:creator>saniko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave,

The main problem with new frameworks is the lack of examples and references, you can add your thoughts here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10847852/what-are-the-real-world-strengths-and-weaknesses-of-the-many-frameworks-based-on
so people will understand more about your implementation (and know it exists).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave,</p>
<p>The main problem with new frameworks is the lack of examples and references, you can add your thoughts here:<br />
<a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10847852/what-are-the-real-world-strengths-and-weaknesses-of-the-many-frameworks-based-on" rel="nofollow">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10847852/what-are-the-real-world-strengths-and-weaknesses-of-the-many-frameworks-based-on</a><br />
so people will understand more about your implementation (and know it exists).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@2a7c757beb42a1aef9888c150a813cc8:disqus : Yes, I am actively maintaining this project!  


In fact, I am using it every day as part of a large enterprise application I&#039;m building for my &quot;day job.&quot;  So far, Geppetto is doing everything I need it to, so there hasn&#039;t been a need to make any changes lately.  It does need more unit tests, however.  
So far I haven&#039;t had a whole lot of feedback from the community, and I&#039;m not sure if anyone is using it at all!  So if you give it a try, I&#039;d love to hear what you think.  I&#039;m open to making changes, since it&#039;s still an early release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2a7c757beb42a1aef9888c150a813cc8:disqus : Yes, I am actively maintaining this project!  </p>
<p>In fact, I am using it every day as part of a large enterprise application I&#8217;m building for my &#8220;day job.&#8221;  So far, Geppetto is doing everything I need it to, so there hasn&#8217;t been a need to make any changes lately.  It does need more unit tests, however.<br />
So far I haven&#8217;t had a whole lot of feedback from the community, and I&#8217;m not sure if anyone is using it at all!  So if you give it a try, I&#8217;d love to hear what you think.  I&#8217;m open to making changes, since it&#8217;s still an early release.</p>
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