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	<title>Comments on: The Shape of the Domain Model</title>
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		<title>By: Colin Jack</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/evanhoff/2007/12/01/the-shape-of-the-domain-model/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Evan - Not sure what you mean by shape here, I tried following the link but I think its going to the wrong article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evan &#8211; Not sure what you mean by shape here, I tried following the link but I think its going to the wrong article.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Chambers</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/evanhoff/2007/12/01/the-shape-of-the-domain-model/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Chambers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel this is one area of DDD in .net that needs more work. Much more so than other tools.

I know exactly what you are talking about.

Sometimes I find that you have a little wiggle room but not much. It is also difficult to not let nhibernate dictate your model because of the way specific models have to persisted according to nhibernate.

Perhaps other ORM&#039;s are different? I don&#039;t have much experience with anything but Nhibernate with ORM&#039;s in .net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel this is one area of DDD in .net that needs more work. Much more so than other tools.</p>
<p>I know exactly what you are talking about.</p>
<p>Sometimes I find that you have a little wiggle room but not much. It is also difficult to not let nhibernate dictate your model because of the way specific models have to persisted according to nhibernate.</p>
<p>Perhaps other ORM&#8217;s are different? I don&#8217;t have much experience with anything but Nhibernate with ORM&#8217;s in .net</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/evanhoff/2007/12/01/the-shape-of-the-domain-model/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 21:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe,

Yes, at least with the current version of NHibernate, that is true.  The shape of the model and the shape of persistance are coupled.

It&#039;s more of a tooling limitation though.  There&#039;s nothing to say that the shape of the data can&#039;t be transformed between loading from the database and restoring into the model (and transformed in reverse when saving a snapshot of the model).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe,</p>
<p>Yes, at least with the current version of NHibernate, that is true.  The shape of the model and the shape of persistance are coupled.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more of a tooling limitation though.  There&#8217;s nothing to say that the shape of the data can&#8217;t be transformed between loading from the database and restoring into the model (and transformed in reverse when saving a snapshot of the model).</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ocampo</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/evanhoff/2007/12/01/the-shape-of-the-domain-model/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ocampo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is your contrast that as the shape of the domain model changes so does the the shape of all supporting persistence mechanisms.  Whether that be DB or file.

Just asking for Clarity.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is your contrast that as the shape of the domain model changes so does the the shape of all supporting persistence mechanisms.  Whether that be DB or file.</p>
<p>Just asking for Clarity.  <img src='http://lostechies.com/evanhoff/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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