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		<title>By: Software Testing Articles #1</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/2010/08/25/an-effective-testing-strategy/#comment-5918</link>
		<dc:creator>Software Testing Articles #1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2013 22:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/2010/08/25/an-effective-testing-strategy/#comment-2551</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you mock a class? Is it something like this: &quot;You are just a Person class. I bet you wished you were an Enployee class. Well you are not good enough, with or without inheritance!&quot;

Sorry, just had to throw that out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you mock a class? Is it something like this: &#8220;You are just a Person class. I bet you wished you were an Enployee class. Well you are not good enough, with or without inheritance!&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, just had to throw that out.</p>
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		<title>By: Quality Assurance News</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/2010/08/25/an-effective-testing-strategy/#comment-2550</link>
		<dc:creator>Quality Assurance News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 04:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This testing strategy does require a level of investment.  We’ve found this holistic approach especially effective when we know that this application is critical to our client’s business. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This testing strategy does require a level of investment.  We’ve found this holistic approach especially effective when we know that this application is critical to our client’s business. </p>
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		<title>By: Karsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interresting post :-)
About Subcutaneous tests, I did not quite understood if you mocked all external dependencies such as services and databases?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interresting post <img src='http://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
About Subcutaneous tests, I did not quite understood if you mocked all external dependencies such as services and databases?</p>
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		<title>By: sudr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sudr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2010 13:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have unit tests which mock out service dependencies. And then we have integration tests that test interaction with external systems like the DAO layer, a web service call etc. 

And then we have our functional tests which is what you call subcutaneous tests. We were using the term functional test because of lack of a good term for this. I like &quot;subcutaneous&quot; test since it makes this much more clear.

And finally we have our QA staff do manual testing end to end. 

Thanks for posting. This gives me a much better handle of how to explain our testing strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have unit tests which mock out service dependencies. And then we have integration tests that test interaction with external systems like the DAO layer, a web service call etc. </p>
<p>And then we have our functional tests which is what you call subcutaneous tests. We were using the term functional test because of lack of a good term for this. I like &#8220;subcutaneous&#8221; test since it makes this much more clear.</p>
<p>And finally we have our QA staff do manual testing end to end. </p>
<p>Thanks for posting. This gives me a much better handle of how to explain our testing strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano Ricciardi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefano Ricciardi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. 

I like your breakdown of test categories, it&#039;s similar to what we do in our company, except full system test is completely manual for us :) And we call &quot;Integration Tests&quot; your &quot;Subcutaneous Tests&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. </p>
<p>I like your breakdown of test categories, it&#8217;s similar to what we do in our company, except full system test is completely manual for us <img src='http://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And we call &#8220;Integration Tests&#8221; your &#8220;Subcutaneous Tests&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: aph5</title>
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		<dc:creator>aph5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi :) I would like to ask, about TDD.

 Do you write a test that will define domain model classes ( etc. Employer class ). And what about property validation, I assume that you use dataanotations for that... is that done by tdd to ? 
 

Could you write an article on TDD in MVC ? Many people has problems with that.

 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <img src='http://lostechies.com/jimmybogard/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I would like to ask, about TDD.</p>
<p> Do you write a test that will define domain model classes ( etc. Employer class ). And what about property validation, I assume that you use dataanotations for that&#8230; is that done by tdd to ? </p>
<p>Could you write an article on TDD in MVC ? Many people has problems with that.</p>
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