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	<title>Comments on: Agile Web Development with Rails &#8211; Chapter 1</title>
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		<title>By: joeyDotNet</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/2007/09/13/agile-web-development-with-rails-chapter-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>joeyDotNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike, sure thing.  :)

@Joe,
Funny you should say that.  I serve in the media ministry at our church and I&#039;m currently working on the UI design for v2.0 of our church&#039;s web site (which is currently an old ASP.NET web forms app I built like 3 years ago; boy have I learned a lot since then...  :S ).  And I&#039;m seriously considering building v2.0 on RoR.  So that will probably be my first &quot;real&quot; RoR project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike, sure thing.  <img src='http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Joe,<br />
Funny you should say that.  I serve in the media ministry at our church and I&#8217;m currently working on the UI design for v2.0 of our church&#8217;s web site (which is currently an old ASP.NET web forms app I built like 3 years ago; boy have I learned a lot since then&#8230;  :S ).  And I&#8217;m seriously considering building v2.0 on RoR.  So that will probably be my first &#8220;real&#8221; RoR project.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Ocampo</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/2007/09/13/agile-web-development-with-rails-chapter-1/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Ocampo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is always a Church Web Site and other non-profit projects that feel great when you are done..

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always a Church Web Site and other non-profit projects that feel great when you are done..</p>
<p> <img src='http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/2007/09/13/agile-web-development-with-rails-chapter-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you need any remote Rails people to work on your next project, let me know!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you need any remote Rails people to work on your next project, let me know!  <img src='http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: joeyDotNet</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/2007/09/13/agile-web-development-with-rails-chapter-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>joeyDotNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m not too willing to uproot my family at this point either.  Luckily I&#039;ve been putting a bug in my team lead&#039;s ear for the past few weeks about us needing to find some Ruby/Rails work (I work for a project-based consulting firm).  And he&#039;s actually very open to it, if we can find the work.  Apparently, one client last year (before I joined the company) was asking for some Ruby work and no one knew it, so I don&#039;t think we could take the gig.

So, hopefully, I&#039;ll have a &quot;professional&quot; RoR opportunity relatively soon.  Doh!  Guess I need to learn it first!  :P

Thanks for the link.  Always good to have those kinds of links around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m not too willing to uproot my family at this point either.  Luckily I&#8217;ve been putting a bug in my team lead&#8217;s ear for the past few weeks about us needing to find some Ruby/Rails work (I work for a project-based consulting firm).  And he&#8217;s actually very open to it, if we can find the work.  Apparently, one client last year (before I joined the company) was asking for some Ruby work and no one knew it, so I don&#8217;t think we could take the gig.</p>
<p>So, hopefully, I&#8217;ll have a &#8220;professional&#8221; RoR opportunity relatively soon.  Doh!  Guess I need to learn it first!  <img src='http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the link.  Always good to have those kinds of links around.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/2007/09/13/agile-web-development-with-rails-chapter-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just starting to read some of your past posts now.  I found the Los Techies blogs through Joe&#039;s posts on BDD so I&#039;m working my way to your blog.

I&#039;m in Canada and not too willing to move so I&#039;m having a hard time finding Rails jobs.  It also means that my adoption of Rails (and Ruby) will be slower since I&#039;m stuck doing it as a side gig for fun.  If you&#039;re looking around, rubyrockstars.com seems to have a lot of job listings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just starting to read some of your past posts now.  I found the Los Techies blogs through Joe&#8217;s posts on BDD so I&#8217;m working my way to your blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in Canada and not too willing to move so I&#8217;m having a hard time finding Rails jobs.  It also means that my adoption of Rails (and Ruby) will be slower since I&#8217;m stuck doing it as a side gig for fun.  If you&#8217;re looking around, rubyrockstars.com seems to have a lot of job listings.</p>
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		<title>By: joeyDotNet</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/2007/09/13/agile-web-development-with-rails-chapter-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>joeyDotNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, if you&#039;ve read any of my previous posts over the past year or so, you can tell that I&#039;ve been looking for an alternative to what the .NET platform can offer for quite a while now.  Especially vanilla Webforms, which I&#039;m completely separated from at this point.  That&#039;s why I like (and heavily use) frameworks like MonoRail right now.  But I&#039;m definitely starting to see how the limitations of a static language like C# are kinda preventing a framework with some of the nice features  of Rails from being built on top of .NET.

Funny you mention jobs, &#039;cause that is very much one of the things I&#039;m curious about.  I&#039;m definitely starting to see RoR start-ups and consulting take off.  

What&#039;s your take on the Rails market out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, if you&#8217;ve read any of my previous posts over the past year or so, you can tell that I&#8217;ve been looking for an alternative to what the .NET platform can offer for quite a while now.  Especially vanilla Webforms, which I&#8217;m completely separated from at this point.  That&#8217;s why I like (and heavily use) frameworks like MonoRail right now.  But I&#8217;m definitely starting to see how the limitations of a static language like C# are kinda preventing a framework with some of the nice features  of Rails from being built on top of .NET.</p>
<p>Funny you mention jobs, &#8217;cause that is very much one of the things I&#8217;m curious about.  I&#8217;m definitely starting to see RoR start-ups and consulting take off.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s your take on the Rails market out there?</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/2007/09/13/agile-web-development-with-rails-chapter-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re truly a geek (i.e. your job is your hobby) then you&#039;re gonna love this book.  You already seem like you have an open mind towards a different platform so you&#039;ll probably eat this stuff up.

When I first read about the &quot;convention over configuration&quot;, I was reminded of a bunch of different frameworks that had great potential but never allowed me to override the convention when it didn&#039;t quite match what I needed to do.  With Rails, you can completely dump the convention if you want.  It makes your life slightly more hellish but it&#039;s possible.

After reading this book, I thought that Rails was awesome.  I still think that but now I&#039;m really starting to see the flexibility of Ruby that makes all of this possible.  Coding in .Net feels like a punishment now.  :)

Now if only there were some local jobs in Rails!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re truly a geek (i.e. your job is your hobby) then you&#8217;re gonna love this book.  You already seem like you have an open mind towards a different platform so you&#8217;ll probably eat this stuff up.</p>
<p>When I first read about the &#8220;convention over configuration&#8221;, I was reminded of a bunch of different frameworks that had great potential but never allowed me to override the convention when it didn&#8217;t quite match what I needed to do.  With Rails, you can completely dump the convention if you want.  It makes your life slightly more hellish but it&#8217;s possible.</p>
<p>After reading this book, I thought that Rails was awesome.  I still think that but now I&#8217;m really starting to see the flexibility of Ruby that makes all of this possible.  Coding in .Net feels like a punishment now.  <img src='http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Now if only there were some local jobs in Rails!  <img src='http://lostechies.com/joeybeninghove/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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