Comments on: Testing Private & Protected Members of a Class http://lostechies.com/johnteague/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class/ Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:05:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: arialnormalg http://lostechies.com/johnteague/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class/#comment-103 arialnormalg Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:40:45 +0000 /blogs/johnteague/archive/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class.aspx#comment-103 <a href="http://www.bmbvideo.com/propecia.html">propecia online</a> [url="http://www.bmbvideo.com/propecia.html"]propecia online[/url] http://www.bmbvideo.com/propecia.html propecia online <a href="http://www.bmbvideo.com/ambien.html">buy ambien</a> [url="http://www.bmbvideo.com/ambien.html"]buy ambien[/url] http://www.bmbvideo.com/ambien.html buy ambien <a href="http://www.bowlinginlubbock.com/Acomplia.htm">order acomplia</a> [url="http://www.bowlinginlubbock.com/Acomplia.htm"]order acomplia[/url] http://www.bowlinginlubbock.com/Acomplia.htm order acomplia propecia online [url="http://www.bmbvideo.com/propecia.html"]propecia online[/url] http://www.bmbvideo.com/propecia.html propecia online buy ambien [url="http://www.bmbvideo.com/ambien.html"]buy ambien[/url] http://www.bmbvideo.com/ambien.html buy ambien order acomplia [url="http://www.bowlinginlubbock.com/Acomplia.htm"]order acomplia[/url] http://www.bowlinginlubbock.com/Acomplia.htm order acomplia

]]> By: jcteague http://lostechies.com/johnteague/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class/#comment-102 jcteague Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:30:25 +0000 /blogs/johnteague/archive/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class.aspx#comment-102 @Jason I liked your post. It reminded me of something I should have mentioned in my original post. I guess that means I should write a new one huh? @Jason
I liked your post. It reminded me of something I should have mentioned in my original post. I guess that means I should write a new one huh?

]]> By: Jason Baker http://lostechies.com/johnteague/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class/#comment-101 Jason Baker Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:40:55 +0000 /blogs/johnteague/archive/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class.aspx#comment-101 Interesting post. I've outlined a few ways of looking at the "how do I test private methods" question here: http://jasonmbaker.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/enemies-of-test-driven-development-part-i-encapsulation/ Interesting post. I’ve outlined a few ways of looking at the “how do I test private methods” question here: http://jasonmbaker.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/enemies-of-test-driven-development-part-i-encapsulation/

]]> By: jcteague http://lostechies.com/johnteague/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class/#comment-100 jcteague Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:13:33 +0000 /blogs/johnteague/archive/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class.aspx#comment-100 @ctasada yes, reflection is an option. MSTest actually creates a helper class for you that gives you access to all of your methdods for you. However I agree with the comment pablo made that if they are really that complex, chances are you're missing an abstraction somewhere in your design. @ctasada
yes, reflection is an option. MSTest actually creates a helper class for you that gives you access to all of your methdods for you.

However I agree with the comment pablo made that if they are really that complex, chances are you’re missing an abstraction somewhere in your design.

]]> By: ctasada http://lostechies.com/johnteague/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class/#comment-99 ctasada Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:16:35 +0000 /blogs/johnteague/archive/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class.aspx#comment-99 You can find a different approach for the same problem here: http://ctasada.blogspot.com/2009/08/junit-how-to-test-your-private-methods.html You can find a different approach for the same problem here:

http://ctasada.blogspot.com/2009/08/junit-how-to-test-your-private-methods.html

]]> By: jcteague http://lostechies.com/johnteague/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class/#comment-98 jcteague Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:19:50 +0000 /blogs/johnteague/archive/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class.aspx#comment-98 @pablo That's absolutely true. The times when I needed to test a protected member I'm sure I was violating SRP. The most recent need for me to do so was overrided a member on the Controller class. I'm not sure I had a way to do in a way without violating SRP since I do not own the Controller class. @pablo
That’s absolutely true. The times when I needed to test a protected member I’m sure I was violating SRP. The most recent need for me to do so was overrided a member on the Controller class. I’m not sure I had a way to do in a way without violating SRP since I do not own the Controller class.

]]> By: pablo http://lostechies.com/johnteague/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class/#comment-97 pablo Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:29:17 +0000 /blogs/johnteague/archive/2009/08/28/testing-private-amp-protected-members-of-a-class.aspx#comment-97 I asked you this question yesterday and in the meantime @KentBeck replied to my tweet about that too. His words: http://twitter.com/KentBeck/status/3579860805 @pablogl i only test public methods. if a private method is complex enough to need testing, it generally needs its own object. In other words, if the private/protected method is really so important that you have to test it, then perhaps we are violating the Single Responsibility Principle. I asked you this question yesterday and in the meantime @KentBeck replied to my tweet about that too.

His words: http://twitter.com/KentBeck/status/3579860805
@pablogl i only test public methods. if a private method is complex enough to need testing, it generally needs its own object.

In other words, if the private/protected method is really so important that you have to test it, then perhaps we are violating the Single Responsibility Principle.

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