Comments on: Investing in your tests–A lesson in object composition http://lostechies.com/josharnold/2012/12/22/investing-in-your-testsa-lesson-in-object-composition/ Startups, open source, and coffee. Mon, 20 May 2013 20:00:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: TDD: Links, News And Resources (8) | Angel "Java" Lopez on Blog http://lostechies.com/josharnold/2012/12/22/investing-in-your-testsa-lesson-in-object-composition/#comment-195 TDD: Links, News And Resources (8) | Angel "Java" Lopez on Blog Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:47:30 +0000 http://lostechies.com/josharnold/?p=241#comment-195 [...] Investing in your tests–A lesson in object composition | Josh Arnold’s Blog http://lostechies.com/josharnold/2012/12/22/investing-in-your-testsa-lesson-in-object-composition/ [...] [...] Investing in your tests–A lesson in object composition | Josh Arnold’s Blog http://lostechies.com/josharnold/2012/12/22/investing-in-your-testsa-lesson-in-object-composition/ [...]

]]> By: Jef Claes http://lostechies.com/josharnold/2012/12/22/investing-in-your-testsa-lesson-in-object-composition/#comment-179 Jef Claes Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:32:00 +0000 http://lostechies.com/josharnold/?p=241#comment-179 Just a quick comment to let you know the gists are also not showing up in Google Reader. Just a quick comment to let you know the gists are also not showing up in Google Reader.

]]> By: jmarnold http://lostechies.com/josharnold/2012/12/22/investing-in-your-testsa-lesson-in-object-composition/#comment-174 jmarnold Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:31:00 +0000 http://lostechies.com/josharnold/?p=241#comment-174 Oh, absolutely. However (and I rarely take this stance), there are times when you have to weigh goals and their values of the overall design. For this particular case, I've seen what happens when the source memoization is removed and optimization gets poor. On top of that, diagnostics is a big piece of our vision and caching the mechanics makes that possible. Unfortunately, those two decisions make some of the setup a little clumsy. It's not 50 lines of setup clumsy. It's about 5-6 repetitive lines that I wouldn't want forced on me -- especially when they require intimate knowledge of the composition. The scenario "pattern" is the best compromise I've seen so far. Oh, absolutely. However (and I rarely take this stance), there are times when you have to weigh goals and their values of the overall design. For this particular case, I’ve seen what happens when the source memoization is removed and optimization gets poor. On top of that, diagnostics is a big piece of our vision and caching the mechanics makes that possible. Unfortunately, those two decisions make some of the setup a little clumsy.

It’s not 50 lines of setup clumsy. It’s about 5-6 repetitive lines that I wouldn’t want forced on me — especially when they require intimate knowledge of the composition. The scenario “pattern” is the best compromise I’ve seen so far.

]]> By: David DeWinter http://lostechies.com/josharnold/2012/12/22/investing-in-your-testsa-lesson-in-object-composition/#comment-173 David DeWinter Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:08:00 +0000 http://lostechies.com/josharnold/?p=241#comment-173 I think the message should be stronger; invest in your tests, yes, but use them as a sense to tell you that your design needs improving, too. When you feel your tests becoming too cumbersome to write or maintain, take a step back and re-evaluate your approach. As an aside I can't see your code examples on my phone. :( I think the message should be stronger; invest in your tests, yes, but use them as a sense to tell you that your design needs improving, too. When you feel your tests becoming too cumbersome to write or maintain, take a step back and re-evaluate your approach.

As an aside I can’t see your code examples on my phone. :(

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