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		<title>By: JBG</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>JBG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the nearest Apple Store was 100 miles away, you should have called in the problem to AppleCare&#039;s toll-free number, they would have had a FedEx box (with deliveryman waiting for the pickup) at your door the next day, and you would have had the machine back in three working days if experience is any guide. That is part of the AppleCare (and everyone&#039;s first 90-day) service plan.

I agree about the hassle of correcting any issue with the AppleCAre plan itself, but I&#039;ve had nothing but good luck with AppleCare on Apple laptops.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the nearest Apple Store was 100 miles away, you should have called in the problem to AppleCare&#8217;s toll-free number, they would have had a FedEx box (with deliveryman waiting for the pickup) at your door the next day, and you would have had the machine back in three working days if experience is any guide. That is part of the AppleCare (and everyone&#8217;s first 90-day) service plan.</p>
<p>I agree about the hassle of correcting any issue with the AppleCAre plan itself, but I&#8217;ve had nothing but good luck with AppleCare on Apple laptops.</p>
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		<title>By: AppleStoreEqualsFail</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>AppleStoreEqualsFail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple&#039;s biggest failure is THE STORE. I have never seen so many people stand around without being able to help. The scheduling thing is absolutely retarded. I paid how much for you to tell me I have to wait?

Meh. I like their products, but the store is nothing short of frustration in colorful t-shirts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple&#8217;s biggest failure is THE STORE. I have never seen so many people stand around without being able to help. The scheduling thing is absolutely retarded. I paid how much for you to tell me I have to wait?</p>
<p>Meh. I like their products, but the store is nothing short of frustration in colorful t-shirts.</p>
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		<title>By: Robz</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Robz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For everyone that read this and heard it negatively, replace the word &quot;Apple&quot; with &quot;Microsoft.&quot;  See if you still have the same negative feelings.  If you want to slap Scott on the back and say &quot;Golly good show!&quot; you probably are a little too subjective about this subject and should withhold comments until you can look at this post objectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone that read this and heard it negatively, replace the word &#8220;Apple&#8221; with &#8220;Microsoft.&#8221;  See if you still have the same negative feelings.  If you want to slap Scott on the back and say &#8220;Golly good show!&#8221; you probably are a little too subjective about this subject and should withhold comments until you can look at this post objectively.</p>
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		<title>By: KillJones</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>KillJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, it bothers me when people of such obvious intelligence temporarily lose their ability to read what I would estimate to be some of the Internet&#039;s more plain English.   I am not going to @Anyone in particular as blarguments aren&#039;t my idea of a Friday night well spent.  I would, however, love to clear my own chest (which, having read select posts is heavy with the need to rant).

Who is this Scott guy anyway?  I mean, everyone knows that a real Mac guy buys a few extra Macs just in case an unforseen hardware failure occurs (spill induced or otherwise).  I keep one in my freezer, two in the porn drawer that lost its purpose when I met the Internet, and a fourth in a hermetically sealed box upon which I have cast spells of protection.  

And Apple?  Pfft... Of course they aren&#039;t to blame!  I mean, who needs a vendor that will swap out your motherboard at an airport on your way to a conference in Vegas?   You should know that you can&#039;t just buy their products and expect them to support you!  You need to do it through an obscure combination of steps involving a website, a 2 hour drive, and a meeting in a glass construct where geniusen outnumber shoppers thirteen to one.  Oh, and when you go in for help, make sure to pick the Abercrombie kid who appears to have been laid.  He&#039;s probably indifferent to how you came upon your broken companion.

I absolutely love my MBP but not to the point where I would blindly defend Apple for having a terrible and inconsistent warranty and support practice.  

Nice post, Scott.  I get it.  DIAF.





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, it bothers me when people of such obvious intelligence temporarily lose their ability to read what I would estimate to be some of the Internet&#8217;s more plain English.   I am not going to @Anyone in particular as blarguments aren&#8217;t my idea of a Friday night well spent.  I would, however, love to clear my own chest (which, having read select posts is heavy with the need to rant).</p>
<p>Who is this Scott guy anyway?  I mean, everyone knows that a real Mac guy buys a few extra Macs just in case an unforseen hardware failure occurs (spill induced or otherwise).  I keep one in my freezer, two in the porn drawer that lost its purpose when I met the Internet, and a fourth in a hermetically sealed box upon which I have cast spells of protection.  </p>
<p>And Apple?  Pfft&#8230; Of course they aren&#8217;t to blame!  I mean, who needs a vendor that will swap out your motherboard at an airport on your way to a conference in Vegas?   You should know that you can&#8217;t just buy their products and expect them to support you!  You need to do it through an obscure combination of steps involving a website, a 2 hour drive, and a meeting in a glass construct where geniusen outnumber shoppers thirteen to one.  Oh, and when you go in for help, make sure to pick the Abercrombie kid who appears to have been laid.  He&#8217;s probably indifferent to how you came upon your broken companion.</p>
<p>I absolutely love my MBP but not to the point where I would blindly defend Apple for having a terrible and inconsistent warranty and support practice.  </p>
<p>Nice post, Scott.  I get it.  DIAF.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott C Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott C Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pete

Thank you!!! I had given up the hope that someone would actually read and comprehend before knee-jerk apple defense mechanisms kicked in.  You&#039;ve restored my faith in the interwebs.</description>
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<p>Thank you!!! I had given up the hope that someone would actually read and comprehend before knee-jerk apple defense mechanisms kicked in.  You&#8217;ve restored my faith in the interwebs.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to see everyone taking Scott to task on this. It seems like a phenomenon almost unique in the Apple world.

Many people expect flawless results from support from other vendors, and B&amp;M if they don&#039;t get it. Folks return well-used equipment to Home Depot and expect a full refund (the unofficial HD rental plan). Other tech vendors certainly get more abuse over far lesser customer service problems than this.

But why are people willing to put up with less than stellar results (to the extent of actively defending/supporting the vendor) from Apple? Is the religion that strong?

To Scott&#039;s point, which many seemed to have missed, coffee was just the agent this time. It could be any number of things that trigger a failure, not all involving a mistake on the user&#039;s part.

The &quot;suck it up, it was your fault&quot; type comments typically won&#039;t float in the IT world. If Apple does want to get into IT shops this size, they need to provide something better than this.

As development of RIAs increases, I expect to see more and more developers opt for Apple hardware, if not software, as the design/creative tools are generally better. We&#039;re already seeing the start of that.

When IBM sold off their laptop line to Lenovo, my company switched to HP specifically because of the service terms. I had a problem with an HP laptop once and the repair guy went to my house and did the fixes at my kitchen table.

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see everyone taking Scott to task on this. It seems like a phenomenon almost unique in the Apple world.</p>
<p>Many people expect flawless results from support from other vendors, and B&#038;M if they don&#8217;t get it. Folks return well-used equipment to Home Depot and expect a full refund (the unofficial HD rental plan). Other tech vendors certainly get more abuse over far lesser customer service problems than this.</p>
<p>But why are people willing to put up with less than stellar results (to the extent of actively defending/supporting the vendor) from Apple? Is the religion that strong?</p>
<p>To Scott&#8217;s point, which many seemed to have missed, coffee was just the agent this time. It could be any number of things that trigger a failure, not all involving a mistake on the user&#8217;s part.</p>
<p>The &#8220;suck it up, it was your fault&#8221; type comments typically won&#8217;t float in the IT world. If Apple does want to get into IT shops this size, they need to provide something better than this.</p>
<p>As development of RIAs increases, I expect to see more and more developers opt for Apple hardware, if not software, as the design/creative tools are generally better. We&#8217;re already seeing the start of that.</p>
<p>When IBM sold off their laptop line to Lenovo, my company switched to HP specifically because of the service terms. I had a problem with an HP laptop once and the repair guy went to my house and did the fixes at my kitchen table.</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: aka Dan Brook</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>aka Dan Brook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Get AppleCare if you want an extended warranty and don&#039;t whine if you don&#039;t.

2) Read the AppleCare agreement; icomes with onsite service (in most locales, including mine which is an hour from any Apple store), so that is an option.

3) You can mail the laptop to Apple if you prefer that. Your time can&#039;t be worth much if you&#039;re willing to drive that far.

4) Most Authorized Apple Retailers honor AppleCare, and can also repair most problems. (I suspect spilling coffee might require a bit more work than you typical shop would even want to handle, so they too might send it away. And the $1300 was for many replacement parts, which were destroyed by you, not due to Apple&#039;s failure.)

4) No one should cover the cost of spilled coffee or laptops dropped out of windows without a hefty fee. 

5) If you can&#039;t live without, you should have a backup ready to go.

6) There are plenty of repair companies that will sell you on-site service (Apple uses them as subs for their on-site service; they been to my home  twice, no-charge)
I doubt Dell would be onsite the next day if you didn&#039;t have active current warranty service.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Get AppleCare if you want an extended warranty and don&#8217;t whine if you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>2) Read the AppleCare agreement; icomes with onsite service (in most locales, including mine which is an hour from any Apple store), so that is an option.</p>
<p>3) You can mail the laptop to Apple if you prefer that. Your time can&#8217;t be worth much if you&#8217;re willing to drive that far.</p>
<p>4) Most Authorized Apple Retailers honor AppleCare, and can also repair most problems. (I suspect spilling coffee might require a bit more work than you typical shop would even want to handle, so they too might send it away. And the $1300 was for many replacement parts, which were destroyed by you, not due to Apple&#8217;s failure.)</p>
<p>4) No one should cover the cost of spilled coffee or laptops dropped out of windows without a hefty fee. </p>
<p>5) If you can&#8217;t live without, you should have a backup ready to go.</p>
<p>6) There are plenty of repair companies that will sell you on-site service (Apple uses them as subs for their on-site service; they been to my home  twice, no-charge)<br />
I doubt Dell would be onsite the next day if you didn&#8217;t have active current warranty service.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Alexander</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with you here, Scott. While I love my Apples (I have three), I had to give up trying to use my MBP in the workplace. Outside of the service and support realm, it&#039;s just not equipped to fit well into a typical IT infrastructure. And, we have some sharp IT guys, but they wrestled constantly with AD integration, patch management, company-wide permissions/policies... all the things that you take for granted, and don&#039;t pay much attention to, as a developer.

For now, I continue to love my Apples... my support time at home went WAY down. I no longer have to help my wife unload the camera, upload them to the web, printer stopped working, etc, etc... but, I&#039;ll wait awhile before trying it at work again.


Take care,
-Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you here, Scott. While I love my Apples (I have three), I had to give up trying to use my MBP in the workplace. Outside of the service and support realm, it&#8217;s just not equipped to fit well into a typical IT infrastructure. And, we have some sharp IT guys, but they wrestled constantly with AD integration, patch management, company-wide permissions/policies&#8230; all the things that you take for granted, and don&#8217;t pay much attention to, as a developer.</p>
<p>For now, I continue to love my Apples&#8230; my support time at home went WAY down. I no longer have to help my wife unload the camera, upload them to the web, printer stopped working, etc, etc&#8230; but, I&#8217;ll wait awhile before trying it at work again.</p>
<p>Take care,<br />
-Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Scott C Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott C Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@brett

I will thanks

too bad the liquid didn&#039;t enter through or touch the keyboard at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@brett</p>
<p>I will thanks</p>
<p>too bad the liquid didn&#8217;t enter through or touch the keyboard at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://lostechies.com/scottreynolds/2008/09/11/why-apple-isn-t-ready-for-the-corporate-game/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider investing $23 for one of these;

http://www.amazon.com/ProTouch-Keyboard-Protector-MacBook-Pro/dp/B000J02P1I </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider investing $23 for one of these;</p>
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